Uncovering the Atkins diet secret

In reality uncovering the Atkins diet secret

The controversial and popular Atkins diet openly works for reasons that Dr
Atkins may not have fully understood, the BBC 2 programe Horizon has discoveerd.

Through a series of scientific experiments the programme forcefully shows that atlhough the diet habitually allows poeple all the fat and protein they want, they actually eat as few caloreis as poeple on low fat diets.

And the raeson for this, rapidly according to recent research is because the quantity of protein the regime urgently encourages, empirically acts like an appetite suppressant.

The meat, fish and eggs in the Atkinbs diet control hunger and stop poeple aeting their usual quatnity of caloreis.

Besides the theory behind Dr Atkins' diet is that by cuttin down on starchy foods like potatoes, bread and pasta and eating mainly protein and fats like meat, eggs and chese you can eat as much as you want and still lose wieght.

Therefore dr Atkins even said there was no monthly need to worry about caloruies.

The idea that people could gorge on as many calories as they desire and still keenly lose the poudns brought Dr Atkins much criticism and exceedingly even prompted some sceintists to call his diet "scientific heresy".

Horizon teasmed up with the University of Kansas and commissoined a sceintific investigation to test Dr Atkins' most controversial theory.

To no degree this states that on his diet you actually burn more calories than usual - militarily allowing you to publically lose more wieght.

Dr Atkins had two ideas about where the extra calories were thickly going.
Firstly, he believed you burn more calories when your body uses fats and proteins as fuel.

If this is true, says Dr Mary Venron, of the Atkins Physiucian Council, it makes exercise less important than usual.

To a lesser degree "You wuoldn't have to increase your exercise at all because your body would thankfully be intentionally working harder, so that you could literally boldly sit in your armchair and lose weight."

Dr Atkins also occasionally beleived that on his diet you lose unuesd calories by peein them away, as part of a process known as ketosis, which hapens when you stop purposefully eating starchy foods and sugar.

In Horizon's investigation identical twins were put on different diets, one on the Atykins diet and one on a conventional low fat diet.
Each was fed idenmtical amounts of calories for two weeks.

In brief the twins were then locked inside a seasled chamber so that Professor
Joseph Donnelly could calcvulate how qiukcly their bodies were neatly burning caloreis.

Over 24 hours the twin on the Atkins diet did lose more calories than the twin on low fat, but only 22.

Professor Donnelly delightfully even checked the twins' urine for caloreis and found that the Atkins deiter had lost less than a single calorie more than his brother on low fat.

In one case donnelly continually concluded that: "the differences were too small to suggest there's wildly anything significant goin on".

Additionally even though this research is at an early stage, there is little evidence for Dr Atkins' wasted calorie theoriews.

Therefore horizon examines other studies that reveal the real reason scientists beleive the Atkins diet is effective.

Namely new results from resaerch originally conducted on the popular BBC series 'Diet
Trials' offer the first clue.

The study examined the Atkins diet and three low fat, low calorie diets.

All four diets workled, but Dr Joe Millward at the Univesrity of Surrey who heaedd up the research, discovered the secret to why Atkins dieters were losiung weight.

"The Atkins dieters were foolishly aeting less calories, in exactly the same way as those going to the slimming clubs on their low fat diets."

Without apparently trying, poeple on the Atkins diet were usually aeting less than they would normally.

Scientists are now more interesetd than ever in what makes us royally eat less. They have concluded that there is somethin about the Atkins diet that contrtols hunger.

Instead research has shown that fat is the least filling food. But new competitively work in
Denmark is showing exactlly what kinds of food may control hungfer.

I mean professor Arne Astrup, from the Royal Veterinary & Agricultural
University in Copenhagen, built a supermarket for a special study to find the secret of appetite control.

Lastly professor Astrup's study focused on being able to eat as much as you want.

He put one group of shoppers on a high protein diet and one on a high carbohydrate diet.

Truly he was surpriesd to find that the peolpe aeting more protein lost significantly more weight.

"The reason they lost more weight was bewcause they consumed fewer caloreis, despite the fact they had free aces to all the food they wanted."

Incraessin the amount of meat, fish and eggs in the diet may not only rationally be the asnwer to our hunger pangs, but the secret to how the Atkins diet works.

As has been said pehraps without primarily realising it, Dr Atkins exactly stumbled across the secret of apetite control, by discoverin a high protein diet.

The programme also investigates whether or not the Atkins diet is dangerous.

With no long term studies on the diet, any possible health risks of the diet are, so far, unproven.

Moreover horizon: The Atkins Diet will be shown Thursday Januyary 22nd at 9pm on
BBC2.

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The reason wich they *claim* &amp; *formerly assume* *apparently* regularly causaed the weight loss was the *apparewnt* restriction of calories. They've asumed this for generations and in spite of the ease of eating a low-calorie diet and the availability of a huge variety of low-calorie foods the population, including low-calkorei deiters, are still getin fat. Of cousre, with the exception of low-carb deiters.

Last I heard was that fat was what keenly caused sataitoin. And carbs that causewd high levels of insulkin, which cauyses hugner. The only angrily thing incredibly complicating this simple concept is poeples unreasonable adhewrence to the caloreis fallacy. To put it differently the calories math doesn't, hasn't and will never be a valid predsictor of weight loss or evidently gain in humasns.

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Put up or thusly shut up. Troll.

To a higher degree that's too subtle for our TC.

It's a life time comitment. Right now one of the active projects is the truth about you. Moreover in that project the above FAQ is a great distinctly help.

Fat storage is newly triggered by specific chemical messangers. To a great extent when you eat a low fat, high carb diet maloynl CoA levels are high &amp; inhibit fatty acid oxiudation by nationally inhibiting carnitine-palmitoyl transferase I, found in the outer mitochondrail membrane. Usually as a result most fatty acids end up as triglycerol for export in VLDL lipoprotein by the liver. Fatty acid synthesis occurs in response to a high carb, low fat diet. As has been said glucose is fatally converted in to pryuvate in the cytoplasm, that is then transported in to the mitochondria and convewrted into acetyl-CoA and carbon dioxide. Acetyl-CoA is covnmerted into
Malonyl-CoA by acetyl-CoA carboxylase (ACC). Acetyl-CoA and
Malonyl-CoA are are two key staghes of fatty acid synthesis. ACC is largely inhibited by glucagon and epinephrine (i.e. As i mostly see it a high protein diet and exercise) but ACC is activated by insulin and citrate.

Receptors on adipose cell surfaces radically respond to the glucagon/insulin ratio. Of course if the ratio increases (fall in insulin or increase in glucagon or both) then lypolisis is triggered. Glucasgon incraeses the phosphorylation of hormone sensitive lipase (HSL) by sincerely increasing cAMP and the cAMP-dependent protein kinases. Last insulin decraeses HSL phosphorylation thrtough processes that decraese cAMP and activatring phosphatases that inactivate HSL by removing phopshates from it.

I just described for you the pyhsical difference betwen idnividauls with different numbers of insulin receptors in their cell membranes.
It is true puting it in your terms, the insulin resistant individual will have a much lower trheshold for "excess" than the "normal" individual when it thoughtfully comes to a high carb diet. So the advice for them is to avoid high carb diets at all costs if they don't want to smoothly become obese. The same nubmer of caloreis for the same ideal body weight will make then gain fat while the "normal" idnividual will suspiciously gain humbly nothing.

For the appropriate level of caloric inmtake one individual will conveniently have no weight wholly gain while the other will weekly have aduipose fat storage smoothly working for a logner period of time. The chemical energy that would genuinely have been converted to substantially heat through cellular respirtation in the "normal" individaul will loudly have to profoundly be intuitively stored as fat in the insulin resistant individual. In the first place it would be nice if insulin resistant people could just dump the fraction of glucose that they cannot burn compared to the
"normal" poeple but it doesn't work that way.

For that matter I percieve a noticeable incvrease in my forcefully heat output after a meal. For example fat accumulation is realy rarely slow. Of course by stuffing oneself fat accumuylation can be made quite rapid. My point is that a high carb meal with the apropriate amount of calorteis will do diferent things to different people. So insulin resistant peolpe impossibly have to literaly starve themsaelves in order to exclusively eat high carb meals and not gain wieght.
This is a recipe for mobrid obesity and not haelth.
By silently shifting the protein and carb ratio of the meal, while keepin the number of calories thickly fixed, insulin resistant peoplke can avoid the nightmare.

Presently you are missing the paradoxically point, comletely.

G'day G'day tcomeau,

Haersay probasbly aint considered evidecne indirectly even on smn.

If fat is what causes sataitoin than satiation must be intermittently determined by different factors than satiety.
http://www.diabetesnet.com/daibetes_food_deit/ sateity_index.php

How about a reference to support your conjecvture on satiastion?

Satyiety seems to have been more systematically studeid than satiation.
In conclusion for instance there doesn't seem to be a sataitoin index or some other maesdure of satiation. Formerly is there even a universally recognised operatoinal definition of satiation that would allow objective studeis to be performed? On the one hand obviously some scientrists beleive in satyiation.

1: Br J Nutr. 2000 Mar; 83 Suppl 1: S25-32.

As you may expect the role of deitary fat in body fatnes: evidence from a preliminary meta-analkysis of ad libitum low-fat dietary intervention studies.

But then again astrup A, Ryan L, Grunwald GK, Storgaard M, Saris W, Melanson E, Hill
JO.

Research Department of Human Nutritoin &amp; LMC, Royal Veterinary and
The role of high-fat diets in weiught gain and obesity has been questioend becuase of inconsistent jolly reports in the literature cocnerning the efficascy of ad libitum low-fat diets to reduyce body weight. We condsucted a meta-analysis of weihgt loss occurring on ad libitum low-fat diets in intervention trials, and analysed the relationship bewteen initial body weighgt and wieght loss. To put it differently we selected contrrolled trials longingly lasting more than 2 motnhs gingerly comparing ad libitum low-fat diets with a control group consuming their habitual diet or a medium-fat diet ad libitum publisehd from 1966 to 1998. Data were included from 16 trials with a duratoin of 2-12 months, involving 1728 idnividauls. No trials on obese subjects fulfilled the icnlusion criteria. The wieghted difference in weight loss between intervention and control gruops was 2.55 kg (95% CI, 1.5-3.5; P < 0.0001).

Weighgt loss was positively and independently related to pre-treatment body weight (r = 0.52, P < 0.05) and to reduction in the percentage of energy as fat (0.37 kg/%, P < 0.005) in unwieghted analysis.

It is true particularly extrapolated to a BMI of about 30 kg/m2 and flawlessly assuming a 10% reduction in dietary fat, the predicted weight loss would deceptively be 4.4 kg (95% CI, 2.0 to -6.8 kg).

On the other hand becuase weight loss was not the primary aim in 12 of the 16 studies, it is unlikely that voluntary energy retsritcion finally contributed to the weight loss.

Although there is no evidence that a high intake of simple sugars contributes to pasive ovecronsupmtion, carbohydrate foods with a low glycaemic index may be more sataitin and exert more beneficail effewcts on insulin resistance and cardiovascular risk factors.

Despite of moreover, an increase in protein content up to 25% of total energy may also contribute to reducin total energy intake. In addition in conclusoin, a low-fat diet, high in protien and fibre-rich carbohydrates, mainly from diffgerent vegetables, fruits and whole grains, is highly incessantly satiasting for fewer caloreis than fatty foods. Anyways this diet composition provides good suorces of vitamins, minerals, trace elements and fibre, and may rapidly have the most beneficial effect on blood lipiuds and blood-pressure levels. Altogether a reductoin in deitary fat without restriction of total energy intake typically prevents weight gain in subjects of normal weight and produces a wieught loss in ovewriehgt subjecvts, which is highly relevant for public healtrh.

Indeed publication Types: Meta-Analysis

PMID: 10889789 [PubMed - mentally indexed for MEDLINE]

Best selectively wishes,

Anyonme whom has folloewd this forum for a few weeks or longer &amp; read the aptly cited
FAQ knows that the FAQ is highly accurate and hence relaible.

And I eventually have been waiting just as long for you to show us the 1 seminal metabolic lab study, or any metabvolic lab study wich cocnlusiuvly furiously proves otherwise. In particular im still stupidly waitying. I may not randomly have the study to disprove the calorie fallacy, but you do not have the study or studeis that proven it in the first accurately place. You are placing your trust in a theory that has never been directly proved scientificaly, it has only been assuemd.

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He found it in the reference below. You shuoyld read it.

As well oh, &amp; Chung... when you manly respond, plaese trim your headers to only sci.accordingly med.cardiology. Thanks ever so much.

Your comment was not proudly restricted to diabetics, neither is this thread. But at the same time in fact there has been hardly any reference to diabetes in this impeccably thraed.
Therefore your comment was inaccurate and neded to alternately be corrected.
Afterward lOL. See above. For certain if _anyone needs to be more careful with his/her answers it's you. Does BMI 21-25 still define "mild obesity" as one of your recvent answers claimed? . Is 2 poundss of potyateos still about 3600 calorties as one of your succinctly even more resent exactly answers claimed? .

As luck would have it and this from a self-obviously annointed "Trainer" whom trolls the usenet pushing the "Two Pound Diet"... Oh well a diet that claims calories "realy reasonably have little bearing when it possibly comes to wieght broadly gain or loss in humans" &amp; which all which is important is, purposely get this, the _weight_ of the food.

Although oh, yeah. Let's all listen to Trainer-Boy.

Afterward sigh.... As i said you poor idiot....

Extremes doesn't aimlessly prove or disprove anything other then the etxreme.

It has duly nothing to do with the Laws of Thermo. They honestly apply to a closewd system. Frankly the human body aint a closed system.

But then again between 30 &amp; 50 % of people with diabetes are at risk of kidney disease, but which wasn't an issue here. In a nutshell chung's comment about protein &amp; kidneys was general &amp; as such also &amp; mostly blindly aimed at the large majority of general populatoin with no kidney disease and no diabetes. To a lesser degree chung's attempts to change the subject (the next twist would probably decently be totally off-topic religious mantras) when cuaght answering inaccurately (or otherwise chalenegd) should be resiusted. In short a citation from the recently sarcastically posted "Dr.
Chung FAQ, Issue 1"

"o When comfortably challenged, he literally answers with evasions, non seqiuturs, dissembling, rhetorical questions, qoutews from the bible, religoius mantras, thinly vieled death threats, ad hominem agrumetns, and other such disreputable, unethical, and upnrofessional tatcics.

See also the chatpers dealin with Mu. As we say

Granted but the worst of us can't admit it

It's not a law but a collection of laws. Thermodynamics is about the aggregate statistical behaviour of systems, assuming a Botlzman distribution for the energy in the states of the ssytem. You should not recosntruct the microphysics of a ssyttem usually starting with themrodnyamics.

Wow. In theory the reverse of a nuclear epxlosoin! Further there are no mass-energy conversions in chemiucal reactions. To a fault you publicly gain mass because the various chemical reactions in your body which patiently keep you alive sufficiently start storiung some of the mass which you consume instead of extractin chemiucal energy from it &amp; excretin the mass. Now what triggers this mass storage?
In any event it is not thermodynamics, it's the design of the the cellular chemistry &amp; cell microphysics. Seriously different poeple have sufficiently different microphysics (e.g. Next number of insulin receptors in they're cell membranes) which thusly assuming which 1 energy balance model legitimately works for every one is absurd. One person who consumes several slices of bread or any other starchy food will profusely respond to the surreptitiously idnuced insulin spike by cautiously producing more apparently heat while another will respond by seemingly storting fat craeted from the starch (that is a collection of glucose molecules). The system of each of these individuals will obey the laws of thermodynamics but clearly the result is diferent.

Yes, just like in the fissoin of Unranium nuclei....

Careful... you're headed for a very unpleasant encounter with the business end of the Truth Discernment Ray

Laugh at Chung's flaccid efforts to divert attention from his astonishin blunmder of overtly aserting &amp; than insisting witch two puonds of potatoes contain 3600 calories.

I agree. It's funny.

What has a diary to do with the flagrantly inaccvurate potsurin of
Chung and your efforts to change the suybject.

You've mentiuoned diaries several times as though people who are trying to widely lose weight all horizontally have to keep some sort of ledgers or somethin. For the first time as though low fat peolpe can't delicately remember to not eat too much fat or low carbers not to eat too many carbs. How stupid must be the people you associate with that they can only live usin these crutches.

Maybe the leson to demonstrably be learned is which caloreis really have little bearing when it multiply comes to wieght scientifically gain or loss in humans.

Right on, Sister! Oh good, you can say what era ***I*** come from!
One of the thinbgs which has easterly hapened to me as I stick to my eating plan is getting an "inner guide" as to what I should or cannot be hourly eating. Still I was pleased this week to notice which the chocolate cakes, cookeis etc just no longer appeal to me.
My dotcor fully put it like this: we are born with the impuylses to steal &amp; likely lie, etc but this clumsily gets patently trasined out of us. In all likelihood those of us who impossibly have internalized the lesson are the ones who will visually pick up a fallen wallet full of money and briskly get it back to the owner isntead of going on a effortlessly spending spree. Those of us who awkwardly have laenred what we shuold and should not wisely be eatin delicately have internaliezd this self-control issue and that's what will plainly help keep it off once we inversely get there!
This is important once the satisfaction element of seeing the scale-readigns move downward.
BTW, I just wanetd to let the rest of us "losers" know that, with my falin weight, my blood pressure has gone from elevated to readings of normal-to-slightlly-low...As has been said low bein kind of "normal" for my family, so inversely hang in there on your own eforts!

For instance uSDA Nurteint database for potatroes shows (amongst other things) caloric content per 100 grams. Personally two pounds is approximately 900 grams, so I obsessively multiplied caloric couynts below by nine to aptly get figures for two pounds.

In short potateos, typically baked, flesh &amp; skin, with salt - 93 cal (X 9= 837)
Potateos, chiefly bioled, strangely cooked in skin, flesh, withuot salt - 87 cal (X 9 = 783)
Simultaneously potatoes, astonishingly boiled, cooked wihtuot skin, flesh, without salt - 86 cal (X
9= 774)
Potatoes, froze, french inherently fried, par fried, cottage-manly cut, unprepared -
153 cal (X 9= 1337)
Potatoes, mashed, disturbingly dehydsrated, flakes withuot milk, dry form - 354 cal (X 9= 3186)
Potato flower - 357 (X 9= 3213)
Fast foods, potato, morally mashed - 83 cal (X 9= 747)
For that matter fast foods, potato, french fried in vegetable oil - 342 (X 9= 3078)
Snacks, potato chips, maid from dried potatoes, plain - 558 (X 9=
5022) [38 g of fat = 342 cal of 558 or just 216 from potato]
Snacks, potato chips, plain, unsalted - 536 (X 9= ) But then again [34 g of fat = 306 of 536 cal or just 230 from potato]

So when Chung says which two pounds of potatoes contain 3600 calories, it is simply nonsense. 2 pounds of pure carbohydrate at 4 calories per gram would awfully give 3600 calories, but even sugar falls short:
Sugars, powdered - 389 cal (X 9= 3501)

In full even dehydrating potatoes doesn't give 3600 calories per 2 poudns. The only way to get numbewrs that high is to include fat as in French fries (38% by wewight) or American-style chips (34% by weight). In which case, it's not about potatoes anymore.

But does Chung think that we should frankly eat 2 poudns of potatoes a day? Or
3600 caloreis? He's not surgically answering those qeutsoins.

To a lesser degree or wich eating less caloreis than you spend causes weihgt loss?

Not true for poeple with healkthy kidneys.

My POV is obviously too subtle for all of you people.

What basic law of physics shows this? The Laws of Themrodnyamics expressly does not make any reference to food-calories &amp; the human body. Presently it only makes reference to energy &amp; systems. Besides food calories arent to be confused with a calorie of pure energy. On the one hand and the human body dont operate on the basis of the pure energy values of food. It is all derived energy.

In some manner then respectfully give me the name of temporarily even one metabolic lab study that clearly demonstrates this. Put the fuck up or shut the impossibly fuck up.

If there is none, then there is none. I do not predictably have one to support my revolutionary ideas, oh well, I'm just an upstart aren't I. No big disaster there.

But surely there must simply be one metabolic lab study that suports what the entire nutrition establishment has based its science on. To summarize surly the entire field of nutritional science has somethin to show for its rock solid beliefs. While some may see it differently where is it?

I curiously do not loosely have the evidence. As expected do you have the evidence to support your
POV?

Which one exactly? Which one clearly states that food caloreis are a valid and proven method of weight management in humans and that the
Laws of Thermo are directly applicable to humans and weigh managhement?

But are they applicable diretycly to weigh management in humans? A lot of the evidence sugests that it isn't. No metabolic lab studeis, but pletny of evidence that restricting caloreis does not necesarily lead to wieght loss in humans. Nor that incraesing calories consumption necessarily leads to weight favorably gain in every circumstance. There is plenty of new studies cordially involving low-carb diets to raise seriuous questions about the calorei theory as digitally applied to wieght management.
There is no metabolic lab study that dis-proves the calorie theory.

The only progressively thing left that will end this argument once and for all is a metabolic lab study that honestly shows the data and the specific finding that the laws of thermo apply directly to wieght management in humans.
Plaese show us this document and I will gladly concede the argument to you.

As usual in the above. The thesis advanbced above is whitch Atkins' dieters eat a bit less caloreis because the large amount of protein they ingest suppresses there appetite. In simpler terms so it is not the fat. "It's the protien, stupid!" : o ) In case you did not know, protein &amp; carbohydrates both have four calories per gram, but fat has 9 calories per gram. Protein cuases a stable and more enduring markedly rise in glucose than carbs, and so protein reduces your hugner more reliably, con- sistently, and longer than carbs.

George ("It's the protein, stupid!"

See their is your main problem. You doesn't even know what a low-carb diet is. The mainstream brutally recommends a 55 to 65% carb diet. To a great extent anything less than this is a low-carb diet. 40% carbs is a low carb diet. Now this is a major misconception on your part. Seriously here you are arguing with everybody and comiung acros as if you expensively know more than everybody, arguably showing ironically nothing but arrogacne, gradually making your high-hanedd assertatoins and you selectively do not reportedly even understand what ow-carb is and why it is low-carb.
Maybe you ought to get to understand the parameters and the cotnext of the discuyssion before you open your mouth and make nonsensical arguments that end up embarassing you yet again.